The Importance of Perception in Saddleback

"I wanted to get to know what is it that's like awesome about Saddleback. I wanted to, with the weekends have a good sense of momentum on the weekends," he says. "There are certain people that like when they're behind something, pretty much everybody else is going to get behind it." The transition has not been hard for him despite Rick's health and his 40-year reign as leader. He tries to engage outgoing leaders who still want to put their hands on steering wheel.