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Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me!

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Rock and Roll Nostalgia and Chess Cheating Scandals

The chapter delves into the speaker's rock and roll past in LA during the 70s, reminiscing about friendships, youthful escapades, and music inspirations. It also features a humorous segment where a guest, humorously named 'Bob Seeger', is quizzed on historical chess cheating incidents, leading to amusing revelations. Additionally, the chapter discusses a scandal involving a grandmaster caught cheating during a chess match, and a book club's lengthy journey to finish reading Finnegan's Wake by James Joyce.

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Did you
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ever do I mean I assumed you did because this is what I assumed all rock and roll gods did like live in a house in the hills in LA and you like have the
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same party. I did. The cover of Strangering Town is taken on the front lawn of a house I rented in LA and that was pretty wild I remember there was no cable back then. Oh yeah. So the first cable I was ever exposed to was the Z channel in LA. It was only in LA and I'd watch these movies like Rocky and things like that in the 70s and they'd show them over and over and especially as it got closer to the Academy Awards. I'm just going to express a little bit of amazement
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that in talking about your life as a rock and roll god living in LA in the 70s
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the exciting thing that you wanted to tell us
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about
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was cable
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TV.
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My main friends out there were Don Hill and Glen Fry. Okay especially Glen who was from Royal Oak. I watched that
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documentary about the Eagles and they broke up because they actually couldn't they were arguing over the remote. Exactly like what are we going to watch. This cable thing really tracks. I've seen a lot of behind the
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music to give up cable to get their life
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back together. They aren't good about everything. One of the things I
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found out and it's not hard to find out if you just listen to the lyrics that many of your most well-known songs are about your life here in Ann Arbor. That's right. For example your song Night Moves. As
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you once put it the tuck your tuck your tuck to the jack. Sure. That was
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about my first girlfriend and I was about 17 and we would have these parties called grassers out between Dexter and Ann Arbor in farmers fields and stuff like that. This buddy my name is Richard Gregory. I had an upside-down record player in his Chevrolet so he could play 45s and we'd all listen to the music and leave the headlights on and get run off by the farmers after. You were just young and restless and bored
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living by the sword. Living by the sword. Yeah. I'll
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tell you what living by the sword you nailed it because that's a much better better rhyme than partying near manure.
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I want to ask a bit one more thing which is that we were watching some of your videos and I
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had forgotten what amazing hair you used to have. I mean beautiful long luxurian. Yeah. That was just the beard. Was there like a law that if you were a rock star in the set
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just had to have the hair? Yeah. Pretty much. I never had it after 1980. Really? Yeah. I after against the win and we had three huge almos. Night moves, stranger talent against the win and and line bullet for and I just it was hard to walk around with. Yeah.
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I
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used to
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put it under a baseball cap. Really? Yeah. Anything. So finally I just said the heck with it. I'm cutting off. Really? Did that ever look back? No. Do you have
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any for those out there who still might have a hair? I'm not speaking for myself.
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1970s rock on have any haircare tips for them? Is there anything you picked up? Don't lose it.
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Where were you and I? Now you tell us. Well Bob
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Seeger we are so excited to have you with us and we have in fact invited you here to play a game that this time we're calling work good on our good night. So you sang about night moves we thought we'd ask you about night with a K moves that is the game of chess. Okay. Specifically three questions about how people have attempted to cheat in the game of chess
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over the years. Bill
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who is Bob Seeger playing for? Yeah.
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B Ford of and Arbor, Michigan.
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There you go.
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All right. Ready to go? Yeah. Here's your first question. Gruy Lopez of Spain was one of the first great chess masters who wrote a book on the game back in the 16th century. In that book he suggests cheating. How?
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A sitting with your back to the sun so your opponent is
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blinded. B if any pawn approaches your castle pour hot oil on it. Or C as your opponent
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is considering his move quietly say I have
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the plague. That one still works. Oh yeah. That
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still works. I
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would
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say C.
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That's your choice. That's my choice. Oh no I'm afraid it was actually a sit so your opponent is blinded by the sun. Oh
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and if you're a
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competitive chess player and you're taking notes out there and you ask well what if you're playing indoors no problem. Gruy Lopez says sit by the fire in such a way that you cast a shadow over the board when your opponent plays. Oh wow. You all worked out. Or you have two more questions. Here's your next question. By the way you're handling this in exactly the manner and approach that I dreamed you were. Great. Here's your next question. In one of the great scandals of chess a grandmaster was accused of cheating at the 1978 world championships by using what foreign substance to help his game. A yogurt. B topical steroids or C horse tranquilizer. You
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can see
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in his eyes he's like what drugs were going around in the way. He's like but I
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don't know I was watching cable. Bad
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batch
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of yogurt deer. I did steroids.
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You're going to topical
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steroids. Like you little steroids on his stuff.
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There you go. And all of a sudden he's like he's going out of the back. It
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could work but it was yogurt.
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It was yogurt. He was accused of cheating with yogurt. The idea was his opponent at one point the guy the grandmaster car pop was his name got a yogurt snack some violet covered yogurt and his opponent freaked out and said aha your team is sending you a signal with the color of yogurt to tell you what to do. And they had to stop the match and work all out until they agreed that from then on he would only get yogurt at prearranged intervals and it would always be the
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same color. That's all true chess.
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It's a weird game.
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Yeah. All right. You
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have one more one more choice here. I see what we can do. Yeah. Okay.
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We're going against the wind but just a few years ago a
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grandmaster was stripped of his title and thrown out of competition forever after he was caught doing what during a
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match a going to the bathroom and then sitting in the stall and
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checking a chess computer on his phone be making little kachine noises into his mouth whatever he captured an opponent's piece or see constantly posing for his Instagram feed.
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Hey. Hey. Thank you. Finally. Finally
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the boxy your fan base rises up. Hey you're gonna go with Aang? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. Seriously and if
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you can find online because there
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was a security camera he should have known of this grandmaster sitting on a closed toilet
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looking at his phone going oh that's how a night moves. Okay, yes. Bill how
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did
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Bob Seigert do in our
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quiz? We have one out of three so the night moves are a little thin but you are always a winner with at Old Time Rock and Roll. Yes, indeed.
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Thank you, Bob Seeker.
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Bob Seeker is an important legend of rock and roll. Bob Seeker, thank you so much for joining us here. We know
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a lot of people
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like to read books on the beach. So here's a recent question from our show about the opposites of a beach read. Roy, a book
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club in California just celebrated its 20th anniversary of regularly meeting. They have faithfully met once a month for all those years and in that time they've read how many books? One. Yes, they've read one book. It took them 28 years to finish Finnegan's Wake by James Joyce, which if you... And then they lied. Yeah, well, I'm not to say. That's about to say Finnegan's Wake. If you've read it, you're lying. It's impossible to understand. It's this avant-garde work of whatever filled with run-on sentences and then fragments of words, all with no punctuation. It's
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either
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a brilliant work of experimental fiction or just someone you hate describing their dream.
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And
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the reason it took so long is this club committed to reading one page at a time and then they'd have a two-hour discussion about that one page. Right? How many members? I'm not quite sure how many they're left, actually. I mean, you know your book club is old when you miss a week of Finnegan's Wake because everybody had to go to Brent's Wake. Oh!

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