i did my first emale news letter, wit sulicanally daily in nineteen ninety six or seven. And then at new york had the emale newsleter, n i had the print magazine. At the time, there was no mail chimp so brian alve set up cumal servers for me. But it would take five hours for it to go out. I said, what if we had like five servers? You said, we'll take one hour, as i catis at work. That's when i had rafad ali will leach a bunch of like, really cool rider, shenny jardan. We just did silikan ally daily