Kevin McCarthy and the Freedom Caucus on the Rules Committee

There is a division within the House Freedom Caucus that benefits Kevin McCarthy, says John Avlon. But then there is another group which wants to move from being a protest movement to something resembling a governing body, he adds. A person like Jim Jordan, who is one of the founders of the Freedom Caucus and he's basically on Team McCarthy here,. It even includes someone like Marjorie Taylor Greene, who is crazy but weirdly has decided she wants to play within the system in order to maximize her influence.