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The Supply Chain in the Financial Markets
The mortgage market is a microcosm of some of the more like structural critiques that you're starting to hear about. I mean, we just had a massive kerfuffle with gilts in the UK. And so if you think that because of all these changes because we were in this new era of higher interest rates, higher interest rate volatility, that's going to lead to structurally higher spreads. Then that basically means like that's kind of a drag on growth and a drag on returns potentially.