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Ronan Farrow on the Threat of Modern Spyware

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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Catalonian Investigators Analyzing Phones and Realizing How Vast This Campaign Is

There was an independence referendm in catalonia in 20 17 that madrid considered illegal. People were sent to jail, and eventually all descended into violence. This is not just an information gathering tool for repressive regimes, or as we're learning increasingly in this piece, western democracies using the technology. It's an intimidation tactic, and it works.

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