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Kev: I'm not really sure which is true. Adam Curry's like there's literally these fake Games that are just a front to boost numbers and I had not heard this So apparently Adam when he worked in Silicon Valley said some of them aren't even games. But the game that was being used what's it called Kevin subway surfer subway surfers Yeah, and a couple others, but that's definitely a real game. And then they're actually hiring somebody like in Malaysia to go sign up for their app. It feels like the fake it till you make it is probably what was going on with iHeart. Just like juice the numbers until we are the number one podcasting most

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