Are You Worried About the Breket Controversy?

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A lot of what you talk about in this latest book are the ndof pre conditions for a confident liberal democracy. Are you worried that that confidence has now gone in western countries? And whatever this potential new version of libele democracy looks like it's going to be more fraught, because there isn't that magnanimity any more.

Freddie Sayers meets Francis Fukuyama.

Francis Fukuyama is a political scientist and public intellectual, most famous for his 1992 book The End of History and the Last Man which has helped to define how we understand contemporary history. His new book is called Liberalism and its Discontents.

Freddie Sayers spoke to Dr. Fukuyama about the war in Ukraine, current trends in Western democracy, and how liberalism can better understand aspects of the human condition it has historically neglected.

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