I was surrounded by people who were making things they were using, PlayStation 1 or PlayStation 2 and or crack copies of FL Studio. So you know, to this day, I create my own audios. My brother bringing me into the boom-bap era of hip hop, you know, nah's, the Wu-Tang Clan, Mob Deep,. all of these types of sounds and productions. But most importantly, that devotion to performance, to jamming - talking about people who don't have time to rehearse in their jobs.

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