i think more generally, what i learned from looking at that movement was that we underrate how ideologically motivated a lot of people are. We shouldn't think of those beliefs as epiphenomenal with some material explanation that explains them away in every case. How does that change our view if we aren't willing to take seriously the ideology rous extrumist movements and understand that they are driven by ideals? And knowing where those ideas come from is just a necessary component of understanding human motivation. I think that component is just neglected in a lot of cases, and we should figure out better how to do that.