Is independent thinking sustainable for humans? Or will people always collapse into tribes, mandating beliefs and excommunicating heretics?
Is Josh a delusional optimist for believing in humanism, liberalism, pluralism and reason? Is it inevitable that people will sort themselves into comforting groups that increase polarization and cultural warfare? Is MAGA a cult? Is gender ideology? Is Zionism? Is multiculturalism?
Andrew Gold is one of Britain's most popular podcasters and YouTubers. A former mainstream journalist whose documentaries aired on HBO and the BBC, his work dried up in the late 2010s and early 2020s. He blames that era's insistence on diversity (another cult?), when it became almost impossible for a straight white male to successfully pitch a new show.
He now hosts Heretics, a wildly popular online TV show that's proudly heterodox and frequently anti-woke. Andrew was kind enough to invite Josh to his studios in North London to discuss groupthink, the culture wars, whether Britain is unravelling, and whether liberalism itself is contradictory.
