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A Slight Change of Plans

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I've Always Been Motivated by Human Connection

When it came to the podcast, i mean, i love people. That's actually been the through line through all these seemingly desperate career choices. I study how it is that we even connect with one another. And at the white house, you know, when you're on the ground in flint, michigan, the wonkey policy stuff feels super far away. It's really just about connecting with human beings who rin states of distress.

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