452: Schrödinger's Killer App
Upgrade
How to Deal With a Relationship With Apple
Jason Cevallos: If I truly worried about my relationship with Apple, there's a lot of things I wouldn't say that I do say. He says he learned early on to not make it personal when discussing people at Apple. "We don't know what's actually happening inside the black box,"Cevallos says.
00:00
Transcript
Play full episode
Remember Everything You Learn from Podcasts
Save insights instantly, chat with episodes, and build lasting knowledge - all powered by AI.
