I was scared because I had no idea what I was getting into. But the reason I turned to it was as kind of a metaphor, as a way of figuring out ... how do I maximize skill and learn to deal with chance? So that's actually how I got into poker,. It made sense to me to use something very specific like poker to address these huge existential questions. And so to me, poker kind of became a laboratory of the mind and a way of working through these things in real time. "It's very, very different to know things theoretically and then to be able to implement them practically in the moment when it actually counts," he says.

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