Intro

State Representative James Talarico of Texas might have been our most requested guest last year. And he seemed to come out of nowhere.

Talarico started breaking through with viral videos on TikTok and Instagram. And in those videos, he didn’t sound like your typical Democrat. He’s forthrightly Christian, quoting Scripture to defend progressive positions and challenging Christian nationalism on Christian grounds. And he is now running for Senate in Texas — in a primary field that includes U.S. Representative Jasmine Crockett — in what will be one of the most important Senate races this year.

So I wanted to have Talarico on the show to talk about his faith, his politics and the way those two have come together in this attentional moment. Because he’s clearly saying things that people are hungry to hear.

Mentioned:

The Sabbath by Rabbi Heschel

“#2352 James Talarico”, The Joe Rogan Experience

Common Sense by Thomas Paine

Book Recommendations:

Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry

Jesus and the Disinherited by Howard Thurman

The Upswing by Robert D. Putnam and Shaylyn Romney Garrett

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