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I took a DNA test for fun and discovered I was adopted, with Carlyn Montes De Oca.

The Relatable Voice Podcast

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What Was It Like Meeting Your Birth Mother?

When they pushed my birth mother out in a wheelchair, I was still sort of in a state of denial. She also had severe dementia and she had bipolar illness most of her life. So it wasn't like I could connect with her in any rational way. It's funny because I reached out to touch her just gently because she didn't want anybody to touch her. But then she kind of flicked me away anyway.

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