The Illusion of Matter

The problem is that there's an insidious notion about what we mean when we use the word matter, which is this idea of this existent stuff which has no qualities. And I think a lot of people take when they hear idealism, they take that to me, no matter is not real or matter is an illusion. But you know, the underlying presumption behind that interpretation would be that matter is something that's fundamentally opposed to or totally separate from mind. Whereas what I see that kind of argument as suggesting is that no matter is real, but it's real in terms of the qualities that it has and those qualities are mental qualities that can only really be given content in terms of mind,