They discuss the idea of viewing certain pursuits in life as games with different reward systems, emphasizing the importance of being good at the game you choose to play and cautioning against playing the wrong game. They explore the topic of identity and purpose after retiring from a position of power or success, highlighting the struggles faced by those who have achieved great success but are left without a clear sense of purpose. They discuss the concept of games and how it applies to different aspects of life, emphasizing the need to invest in the right game, one that truly matters, rather than being consumed by superficial metrics.