The Relationship Between Anthony and Hillel

When you met Anthony, your relationship at first was, how much was it about music? Did you, was the music a part of what you were sharing in those early years? Yeah, it was part of it. But I mean, from a young age, we started like going out and sneaking into clubs and getting into places and seeing bands played. And I was seeing rock music for the first time because as a kid, I didn't like rock music. I thought it was dumb music. ... Even though I still want to be dizzy Gillespie when I grow up, I want to be a jazz trumpet player."