Reflecting on Empathy and Oversight in Times of Struggle

What happens when everything you’ve built crumbles beneath your feet? 

In this personal and open conversation, pastor Ray Ortlund talks about what he’s learned from unexpected losses, crushed hopes, and discarded dreams. Moore and Ortlund discuss how to get through those moments when faith is tested beyond what seems bearable—and they talk about the surprising joy that emerges on the other side.

Resources mentioned in this episode or recommended by the guest include:

• Good News at Rock Bottom By Ray Ortlund

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