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Best of 2023: Building Movements is Uncomfortable. That's a Good Thing / Kelly Hayes
This Is Hell!
Movement Building and Listening with Kelly Hayes
An interview with Kelly Hayes, co-author of an essay on movement building, discussing the importance of listening and understanding discomfort for effective change. The chapter also touches on the host's personal experiences, including recent celebrations and visiting a marijuana dispensary.
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