Roxanne Jones: I didn't know if I was going to win, but I did know I wasn't going to stop. The idea of failure might as well have been done with your dad too? Of course. And so you have to find ways to win in the meantime. That's where the patience comes in. It's like a really visceral example, but I'm going to use it for the sake of being visceral. Slavery has happened for thousands of years. We think about it America with our American slave. So that was more, okay. So I'll impact this."

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