There are ten thousand philosophers in this country with phdes, and about a hundred, 30 of them are black. So it's just tat it'll take. I think the numbers increase more and more, but it takes time to broaden the cultural sphere of inclusion such that people take an interest in these fields which were heretofore closed to minorities. And so generationally, those habits and those that sense of encouragement, or that sense of just feeling entitled, that one is entitled to j to belong in those in those domains, am is is almost like second skin. But i don't think it's based on something like systemic racism - we can ostensibly say thereis wintry weather

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