I don't think anybody in the book is supposed to be like particularly skilled or good and this actually gets into the thematic stuff that that we can either like break into now or or we can if it's relevant let's go for it later. I'm trying to think if they're who's the best character in the wire who starts as kind of a sloppy cop but then becomes kind of a more virtuous one does Carver do that? That would be the analog that I would go to yeah because he moves up. This is just requiring a lot of pop culture pulls from our audience I'm sorry about it.
When Andrew read The Colour of Magic, people suggested that the beginning of the Discworld series was not necessarily the best place to start. Guards! Guards!, the eighth book in the series, is the start of its own contained-ish arc. According to our listeners and many readers, this serves as a more suitable jumping off point.
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