Mology: I'm really inspired by Jonathan, the founder and Robert, the CEO of Athena. They've taken these delegation playbooks and everything that they've been able to do in their lives because of it is magic. He says he thinks of himself as a pragmatic ideologue who's willing to make trade-offs for long-term goals. Mology: My goal with this conversation is going to be to get to many new ideas out of you as I can.

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