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Episode 479: Heather Havrilesky

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I Don't Understand the Fear of Just Being Known

"We don't have an open marriage, just in case that snds licid syou of the subject if of the book," she says. "But it feels to me like there's something freeing in having endured that crushing blow to your ego." She adds: "I feel good about how i'm portrayed by myself and bill feels good about the way he's portrayed"

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