In high school, Ogunlesi discovered that there's a prejudice against science fiction in the intellectual world. The family used to regularly gather after and not just the immediate family, but friends from all different places and all different backgrounds. And yurally exposedni in an irregular way, to all these rich conversations and stories about where people came from. It was the elders trying to make sure we young people realized that we were not like these people around us. We were different. Those forms of blackness and whiteness are not for us.

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