"I stopped running from things. And that shift is radical and critical, right? Because I stop running from things," he says. "It doesn't mean to minimize the pain that we're in, but to at least have part of one eye on, oh yeah, this could be a growth opportunity." 'Can I be with this?' was Pema Chodron's question when she asked people if they were able to feel difficult feelings like fear or sadness. It sparked his curiosity about what it felt like for him to experience those feelings.

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