Research suggests that it's really important to be pragmatic and ruthlessly realistic about what we're up against, says Chrissie. "I tryreally hard to focus my attention on the here and now," she tells MailOnline. 'It does make something good come out of the bad' She adds: "And i'm pretty careful to look after myself too."

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