Game 4 is here, and the Indiana Pacers just dropped a hammer on OKC—again. Matt Moore and Haize debate whether Rick Carlisle is flat-out coaching circles around Mark Daigneault, and which adjustments—if any—can save the Thunder’s chances of tying the series. Are OKC’s playoff struggles just about matchups, or is the Thunder’s coaching philosophy getting exposed in real time?

The crew also dives into the latest shocking Kevin Durant trade rumors. West Goldberg thinks the Miami Heat are uniquely positioned to land KD without needing a third team—but Haize and Matt are NOT buying it. Could the Suns really settle for a package headlined by Andrew Wiggins and Duncan Robinson?

Plus, Sam Amick reports the Knicks are finally pivoting from poaching head coaches. Taylor Jenkins and Mike Brown are being considered—do they make sense for a franchise in desperate need of playoff breakthroughs? And in a fiery game of “Make or Trade,” Matt and Haize tackle what the Sixers, Spurs, and Bulls should do with their picks—and Haize throws cold water on the idea of another Bulls draft day disaster.

Don’t miss this fast-paced, take-heavy episode that hits all the biggest NBA stories—plus shoutouts for Father’s Day and an AliPop ad with gut-friendly vibes.

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