The Importance of a Tough Upbringing

Neville: I find it very common in the lives of those who convert to the LDS church. And that's that oftentimes people that convert to high demand religions come from pretty turbulent, often come from very turbulent backgrounds. You don't find people who are like super healthy, super happy, came from a great family, have a great career and then they join Mormonism as an adult with a Super Happy Life. Neville: Do you want to talk about maybe what was it about your life that made you ripe or or I don't want to say vulnerable because that's negative. Like that made you open or amenable or curious about a religion like Mormonism.