You are part of a group of artists who use discarded gun parts to make incredible hand glazed candle holders and other ceramic wares. How did that line of work came to be? I was approached by a woman named Jessica Mendich who had this group called caliber collection where she initially started trying to raise money to do gun buybacks in communities that were you know had a lot of gun violence. She asked me and a few other artists if we would create something out of the gun parts so I took the barrels the gun cartridge where all the bullets go in and I cast them and made them into candlestick holders but then we would sell them  and a portion of the of the