Kimura is worse than a straight knee lock. The twisting motion, if you're on Bob's and a Kimura, it could be a problem. I've had my knee pop from a knee bar didn't feel it. Even when it popped, I didn't really feel it that I knew there was something wrong. You're so athletic. Running your whole life. Maybe that's the reason running running running. You lose a lot of the nerves in your knee. It's very possible. Yes. Because it did swell up. So probably was that if they were swollen for I don't know a week, two weeks maybe,. which actually technically as far as compared to a real knee