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Historian Andrew Liu on COVID origins: Orientalism and the "Asiatic racial form"

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The Wet Market Theory and the Lab Leak Theory

Andy Soto: This is the sort of conversation that i think is going to benefit from you having actually read the essay. And since you've already entered listening mode, perhaps instead of going to n plus one mag dot com, and searching for the piece, or clicking the link in your show description, you can actually just hop over to the china story podcast and listen to andy himself reading it there. It's an arresting piece, and one that, for me at least, caused the scale fall away from my eyes, as it were. So andy, welcome. Tho seneca yo thinks wet for inviting me to look forward to it.

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