On this special episode of the podcast, Jaan Tallinn talks with Nathan Labenz about Jaan's model of AI risk, the future of AI development, and pausing giant AI experiments.
Timestamps:
0:00 Nathan introduces Jaan
4:22 AI safety and Future of Life Institute
5:55 Jaan's first meeting with Eliezer Yudkowsky
12:04 Future of AI evolution
14:58 Jaan's investments in AI companies
23:06 The emerging danger paradigm
26:53 Economic transformation with AI
32:31 AI supervising itself
34:06 Language models and validation
38:49 Lack of insight into evolutionary selection process
41:56 Current estimate for life-ending catastrophe
44:52 Inverse scaling law
53:03 Our luck given the softness of language models
55:07 Future of language models
59:43 The Moore's law of mad science
1:01:45 GPT-5 type project
1:07:43 The AI race dynamics
1:09:43 AI alignment with the latest models
1:13:14 AI research investment and safety
1:19:43 What a six-month pause buys us
1:25:44 AI passing the Turing Test
1:28:16 AI safety and risk
1:32:01 Responsible AI development.
1:40:03 Neuralink implant technology
