Carlos Gutierrez: It's almost eight years to the day that we did a panel very similar to this one when you were first elected and you've been on City Council eight years at this point. So I wonder if you could reflect maybe on the electoral side as somebody who has been a kind of champion of this kind of movement spirit before it was cool in the city. "There would be no progressive movement that is taking over City Hall without a fighting militant rank and file led union," he says.