Episode 12: Mike Jay
Voices From The Middle Podcast
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Adult Development
Michael Thomas: People develop through higher art, different, more complex levels. He says that verticality is the ability to understand that someone is in a different place than another person. And if you're a coach, you will not be able to give advice at the level that you need to give it if you don't know where they are, he says.
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