The Airbnb story is like a fairytale basically, which is like, well, you have your vision of the world and you just stick with it long enough and like great things happen. And by contrast, I think the what I've learned is that to pivot quickly, much more like the Code Academy guys actually, those guys pivoted 12 times in YCA thing,. The process of discovery and sales qualification is effectively the same thing as testing for product market fit. So I actually think sales or very early sales on the search forProduct Market Fit are actually very tightly intertwined"

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