i want to start by just thanking you personally for your work and how much it's benefited me, ind my understanding of not only addiction and recovery. But if i can make a distinction, yes, you are not sober, you are abstinent. From me, sobrietyas sort of a broader, more grounded present based om serene wisdom. Abstinent is good, it's a start. A lot of people are abstinent without having really found themselves,. So iould probably say, you were, you were abstinent, and that must have been great and also difficult for you. But sobriety takes a lot longer, yes.

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