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46. Dr. Zsófia Clemens
Carnivore Conversations
Can You Just Call PKD Into the Treatment of Cancer?
When did you begin to really start incorporating the PKD diet into the treatment of cancer, its specific in other diseases? It was already the early one. So, almost 10, 10 years ago, not intentionally done so. You always have to assert that the patient is doing what it's supposed to do and not something else. And there are so many other factors that patients sometimes feel tempted to combine with the diet approach because they think, okay, two approaches is more than one approach. But they may be going against each other. The end result may be the best.
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And we'll make sure we attach that to this, this post for sure. And, and when did you begin to really start incorporating the PKD, can we just call PKD diet, or KD, into the treatment of cancer, its specific in other diseases? It
Speaker 1
was already the early one. So, almost 10, 10 years
Speaker 2
ago, not
Speaker 1
intentionally done so. But as you also know, people who are approaching you do not do very rarely have only one condition. They approach you because of diabetes, or because they are obese, but then it turns out that they have a cancer, whatever. And then you start treating them with a PKD for diabetes because you know that, that, that it works for that. And I think that you, you very likely do not harm the cancer disease because you know some background or some studies or anything. And in the end, you, it turned out that you can control blood glucose and you can control tumor progression too, even if this was not expected in the beginning. So, this is how we started collecting experience and long patient histories. And it turned out that wherever we use it, it is efficient if the patient really sticks to the diet. If you can, if you have blood works to show that the patient sticks to the diet. And here comes the diagnostic part. You always have to assert that the patient is doing what it's supposed to do and not something else. And there are so many other factors that patients sometimes feel tempted to combine with the diet approach because they think, okay, two approaches is more than one approach. But they may be going against each other. And then the end result may be the best. So,
Speaker 2
you talk about surgical chemotherapy or other
Speaker 1
medicines along with the nutritional supplements, you know, there are supplements that are crazy, trying to extract antioxidants, whatever, that have a very limited evidence that they are working in humans or anywhere. And this is coming from the marketing side, not really from the scientific side. We're all shocked. Maybe we're doing harm. So, I can tell you an example of an epileptic child who was doing the PKD and he didn't improve. He went on having seizures and he stick to the diet and then after a few months, it turned out that he's still taking vitamin C because parents thought that if you're eating meat and fat, how do you have vitamin C? So, they decided on their own to give vitamin C supplements on the top of the diet because they thought that's just vitamin C, that's just like
Speaker 2
water or nothing. But in reality, that
Speaker 1
may be doing harm and increasing intestinal permeability. So, really goes against what you're doing with the diet. And the end result is not perfect. He became seizure-free when stopping the vitamin C too. So, it is very tricky when somebody says, I tried, didn't work for me. You have to be very careful.
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