i think the other thing that came out in john clees's recent book, and almost every study of a genius i've ever encountered, is that they cultivate these boundary spaces between the hemispheres. Where for edison, it was the boundary between waking and sleeping, and it's the same for me too. Or you go and take a cold shower, and that puts you a little bit more in your body. Or you do breath work,. But there's all these different places you can go that take you into a boundary. Whereas ik, yes, you can go on a de pass in a retreat, i think we kind of over egg that. In the other direction,