Innovating Utility Engagement: Gamification and Flexibility in Energy | 2min snip from Cleaning Up: Leadership in an Age of Climate Change

be hearing a bit more from Greg Jackson after this short break. Cleaning Up is brought to you by the members of our new Leadership Circle. So that is Actis, Ecopragma Capital, Euroelectric, Gilardini Foundation, KKR, National Grid, Octopus Energy and Vartzilla. For more information on the Leadership Circle and to find out how to become a member, please visit cleaningup.live. That's cleaningup.live. If you're enjoying Cleaning Up, please make sure that you subscribe on YouTube or your favorite podcast platform and leave us a review that really helps other people to find us. Please recommend Cleaning Up to your friends and colleagues and sign up for our free newsletter at cleaninguppod.substack That's cleaninguppod.substack Let's talk about some of those things because you said that what had not been tested was, for instance, whether people would engage and whether people would... You talked about almost gamifying so that people can make a bit of money by charging their EV or whatever. But you've done a lot of work on flexibility, on delivery, which was also unproven the idea that a utility could actually deliver flexibility into the system so if it's not windy that you can actually do something about it so not just with a small minority of customers who might be super engaged but large numbers of customers what has been your experience so far on that i

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