The New Atlantis Disaster Trilogy - Red Pilling in the Regime

Jeff Yang: I want to start though with an essay you wrote last year for The New Atlantis called Red Pilling in the Regime. In there, you try to complicate assumptions about how what might commonly be called the blue pill and the corresponding red pill function both in relation to each other and in terms of general social, cultural functioning. There's this way that on one hand the metaphor becomes, you know, identified more as a kind of mainstream sort of right wing sensibility.Yang: And then interestingly mold himself starts talking about the clear yellow pill rather than the red pill when it comes to his early writings courtesy Arvin Yarvan. He says we could identify with somebody like Elon Musk