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385: ‘Who’s Heef?’, With Matthew Panzarino

The Talk Show With John Gruber

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Balancing Enthusiasm and Practicality

Exploring the challenge of appealing to both technical experts and practical enthusiasts in the topic discussed, while showcasing the passion and attention to detail of certain individuals. Includes an ad from Squarespace.

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