I joined what did you join as I joined is like He was trying to put together a succession plan. About 18 months in he said i'm ready, I want to step out and be the chairman  and he wants you to be CEO Be CEO with another guy co-CEO co-CEO with that with a guy who I admire Was it was his protégé who had been in a big Investor over 18 months i've been there for 18 months. So I take this job And you know, it's tough because Ray's trying to be chairman, but he sort of has a foot in foot out It's got a little time little hard time let go little time let go

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