Cliff Aziz: What do Cliff Aziz and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar have in common? Because this will be the only thing. Supernormal returns, right? That's great. Last question here. Chris Kuiper, I'm a master student with the Mercado Center. Question on advising people to get into the passive, low-cost, Vanguard kind of funds. Do you think that in and of itself more people going to passive strategies could open up more potential for active managers and more anomalies? If everyone else is passive, how do you induce them to take a bet away from passive? My sense, and I think you could literally mathematically disprove this.