The last time Andrew Yang was on the podcast, he was just beginning his long shot campaign for the presidency. Now, he’s fresh off a speaking slot at the Democratic convention, and, as he reveals here, talking to Joe Biden about a very specific role in a Biden administration.

Which is all to say: A lot has changed for Andrew Yang in the past few years. And even more has changed in the world. So I asked Yang back on the show to talk through this new world, and his possible role in it. Among our topics:

- Could a universal basic income be the way we rebuild a fairer economy post-coronavirus?

- What’s changed in AI, and its likely effect on the economy, over the past five years?

- What’s the one mistake Yang wishes the Democratic Party would stop making?

- What did he learn from the surprising success of his own campaign?

- What job is he talking to Joe Biden about taking if Democrats win in November?

- Democrats think of themselves as the party of government. So why don’t they care more about making government work?

- How can Democrats get away with endlessly claiming to support ideas they have no actual intention of passing?

- Do progressives have an overly dystopic view of technology?

- Is there a way to pull presidential campaigns out of value statements, and into real plans for governing?

- The unusual power Joe Biden holds in American politics

And much more.

References:

Vox's Kelsey Piper's piece on GPT-3

My previous podcast with Andrew Yang

Ezra's piece on "Why we can't build"

Book recommendations:

Zucked: Waking Up to the Facebook Catastrophe by Roger McNamee

They Don't Represent Us by Lawrence Lessig

Humankind by Rutger Bregman

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