Gail Newman and Mari Ruti joined Coop and Taylor to discuss their upcoming co-authored text, Against Neoliberal Self-Optimization: Marion Milner and D.W. Winnicott. Gail is the Chair for the Center of Global Languages, Literatures, and Cultures and is the Harold J. Henry Professor of German at Williams College; her research interests include psychoanalytic theory, German literature and culture and she has published on Goethe, Kleist, Hoffman, and Novalis (among others), including a book titled Locating the Romantic Subject: Novalis with Winnicott. https://german.williams.edu/profile/gnewman/ Mari is a Distinguished Professor of Critical Theory and Gender and Sexuality Studies at the University of Toronto. Her books include The Singularity of Being: Lacan and the Immortal Within; The Ethics of Opting Out: Defiance and Affect in Queer Theory; and Penis Envy and Other Bad Feelings: The Emotional Costs of Everyday Life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mari_Ruti Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/muhh Twitter: @unconscioushh Instagram: @unconscioushh