I did an anti-natalism podcast, maybe a year ago or maybe that was two years ago. How did that go? It was interesting. I didn't think his arguments in the end. There were some obvious missteps, at least they were obvious to me that he was making and not acknowledging. So the debate kind of broke down in a few places. But it's fascinating to to see people for whom their psychology seems to be rigging their philosophy in a way that is not acknowledged.

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