New zealand has already cleared large parts of someing or national parks and things like that, where they've been able to do this successfully. So t is just a matter of being able to expand that across e greater and greater areas of the country. Steve here's been an absolute pleasure in fascinating conversation. And before we ask you or questions from our supporters, we always end the show with one final question: What do you think is one thing we're not talking about as a society that we really should be?